| My son is a Marine in Iraq right now and
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| | and you will see many previous articles
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| I am in the Air Force Reserve. I have
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| | on the military making soldiers shed
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| been a cop for over 18 years. I wear body
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| | their DS armor for the less effective
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| armor every day. Over the years the only
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| | crap they were supplying. Follow the
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| time I have worn the best armor on the
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| | money and as Morpheus said, "The truth
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| market is when I paid for it myself.
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| | will set you free."
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| Whenever the Government issues it, we get
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| | Well, I am not sure if you are pointing
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| issued armor that is sub standard to the
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| | your finger at the right entity here.
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| latest Technology. We can never seem to
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| | MI does not make policy regarding
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| find out who makes the final decision on
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| | purchasing Privately Owned Armor. I am
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| what we finally are issued. Strange isn't
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| | thinking that this issue goes higher up
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| it.
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| | the food chain. Now, if you are talking
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| I as well as my son have been issued the
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| | about specific MI units not allowing
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| Interceptor Armor, which blows my mind
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| | these purchases, then I can understand
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| since for a couple of years now everyone
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| | where you are coming from.
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| has known the superiority of Pinnacle's
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| | And yes, I have seen locally manufactured
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| Dragon skin. My son is getting shot at
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| | armor (like the plywood contraption you
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| with Ak47's, and 7.62 type rounds. The
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| | are talking about), but that is not after
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| whole vest should stop these rounds not
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| | market armor, it is locally manufactured
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| just where the added SAPI plates are. The
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| | armor. After Market Armor are off the
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| current Interceptor unless hit in the
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| | shelf, readily available armor that has
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| SAPI plates only stops a 9mm round. I
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| | been tested and does/or does not pass MIL
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| want my son to be wearing the best and
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| | Spec requirements.
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| nothing less.
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| | Having crappy armor is a leadership
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| Helmets are also being manufactured with
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| | issue. If your leaders are going to sit
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| better ballistics and suspension systems
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| | there and allow us to go to war without
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| that reduce the concussion pressures from
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| | the proper equipment, then it is a
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| blasts and impacts. Why do we issue the
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| | serious lack of leadership on the part of
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| next best thing? Because the idiots who
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| | people who are paid to make those
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| are in charge don't have to wear it and
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| | decisions, but instead are nurturing
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| someone is making a Buck.
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| | their careers and waiting for that
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| The Military Intelligence thinking is not
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| | retirement check.
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| to allow soldiers to buy their own body
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| | Don't rock the boat you know.
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| armor BUT allow after market armor to be
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| | I guess I am in a pretty cool Guard unit
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| added to soft skinned vehicles. In 2005,I
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| | (lot of LE in it). And my leadership will
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| saw plywood walls filled with sandbags
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| | not prevent me from using the best
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| stacked 3 to 4 feet above the center of
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| | equipment available. I am not going to
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| gravity and overloading the steering
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| | theater ever again with crappy armor.
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| gear. How many people died in single
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| | I started with the Flak Jacket (about
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| vehicle rollovers caused by after market
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| | protection level 0 for rounds), bought an
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| armor vs. people that died from privately
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| | interceptor vest from a crooked Active
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| owned body armor?
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| | Duty soldier (since we were not getting
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| As if this is something that was not
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| | ours issued), put untested Iraqi Plates,
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| being told to the military before. Why
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| | bought some Israeli made ones and then,
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| does it take so long to "investigate"
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| | got some stand alone level IV from a
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| such a high priority situation as this?
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| | Canadian manufacturer.
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| My best guess is that the contractors of
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| | Next time I deploy, I am taking Dragon
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| DOD materials pull a lot of "political
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| | Skin, no matter what anybody says. I can
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| strings" to keep supplying inferior
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| | take the court martial, but I cannot take
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| products at the cost of soldier's lives.
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| | the pine box.
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| Do a search on "dragon skin" here on M.C
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